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July 6, 2009 11:55 PM
Posted By Bakari
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I posted my essay equating the free market with anarchy on a discussion board for anarchists. The following is the comments it generated.
(I am David Craig Hiser. All the other comments are various random anarchists. Many comments were off topic, and are not shown here. Submitted by Ofelas on Thu, 2009-04-02 01:18.
Submitted by communanarchoco... on Sat, 2009-04-04 02:28.
Seems you're forgetting bosses. economic hierarchy. Anarchism is against hierarchy (hier-ARCHy). You're equating anarchy - as in, a lack of laws - with anarchism - a classless, stateless society. Capitalism is brutally authoritarian. It depends on police and armies to keep the masses of workers from being able to take the products of their labour from those who are robbing them (their owners, the bosses).
Capitalism is the antithesis of anarchism. It is the single most hated ideology amongst every authentic anarchist. I understand you want to call yourself an anarchist because its a cooler label than being a capitalist, but sorry, you may not use it. Actually, I'm not sorry. Anyone who supports all the evils of capitalism must be a douche, and I don't apologize to douches. Go read the Infoshop FAQ and learn what anarchism is. Read the section on 'so-called anarcho-capitalists'. Go post on an Ayn Rand messageboard.
------------------------------------------ Submitted by David Craig Hiser on Mon, 2009-04-06 11:04. You have greatly misunderstood my own position. I am in no way advocating capitalism. I am totally opposed to capitalism. The reason I am opposed to anarchy is that I believe capitalism can (and likely will in the modern world) arise from it. That was the point I was trying to get across. I am not forgetting bosses. Being employed by someone is a voluntary relationship. An employee can quit, and even open a competing business. The occasional "American dream" story not-withstanding, people generally can not choose to join the upper class. I am claiming you can not have a classless society without a mechanism to enforce equality. You must somehow prevent individuals from accumulating wealth. If individuals have complete freedom, sooner or later someone will accumulate wealth, and then they will be able to take advantage of that accumulation, which is capitalism. If society prevents that from happening, then individuals are not free to do as they like, even if their actions do not directly hurt anyone else, and this entails some form of authority... [there is a character limit, but just for Gregg, I have the rest on a non-myspace location: http://neapolitanblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/last-one-anarchists-this-time.html] |